《我真的知道自己要什麼》
7.1為何要上街?
1,要政府改善民生
2,要政府真正做到問責
3,希望還政於民
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遊行，是一篇以人為字的檄文？上街去之前你能肯定:[ 我真的知道自己要什麽]?
[吠]出自己的欲求，先要落實你有噬咬問題的牙。
與其問:你會去遊行嗎？
不如問:你為何去遊行?
其實我不在此談政治。
我想說…各樣選擇面前，你能確定:[我真的知道我要什麼]嗎?
假如時間是一條河，種種事情是河魚，像等待去安排選擇的事項。如果你有自主權，就如同手上握著魚網，你可以憑自己想要去打撈。即使未償所願，過程充滿憧憬。
正如老子所言:[天長地久。天地之所以能長且久者，以其不自生，故能長生。]天地是永久存在的，天地之所以能永久存在，是因为它不是为了自己的运动变化规律而存在，而是万事万物运动变化规律平衡的集合，因为他是和谐平衡的，所以它能够永世长存。(http://www.zxuew.cn/daodejing_7/)
快去知道[我要什麼]，然後去守獵所要，因為時間是逝水，從不回頭。
選擇，在此心態下，成為最佳的一種生存狀態。
但，[我真的知道我要什麼]是不夠的，我們還需要知道他/她要什麼。
[是以聖人後其身而身先，外其身而身存。非以其無私邪？故能成其私。]老子又指明:大智者將自已考慮於後，反而會占了先，保全了自己。正是由於無私而成全了他的私。
天翻轉還是天。
知所要，不能得所要，痛苦。也許有的事，我們不知道要什麼，得到些不如意，反而可安慰自己：沒關系，我還沒有真的去選擇。
但，這是消極的，我更贊同積極的方法。我們積極去選擇，去實現選擇，也許跟藍球場上不斷徒勞地舉手一樣，抓不住想要的球。只是連這動作都不做，球到了你面前，你還懂快手嗎？
[我真的知道我要什麼]，這句話也會讓人跌倒。因為凝固不變的東西，因有其形而定形為大地般固執。不顧實際情況的固執，也非好事。
地翻轉還是地嗎？
不同情形下，[我真的知道我要什麼]，才是實用指南。
明天還是會去遊行，巳年近四十但仍未能放棄一些執，從六四到現在
也是在追尋一些自已認為對的事(其實巳沒遊行一段時間，只是近年再出
來)。
遊行，不一定得到什麼;不遊行，你可能什麼也得不到。
就像Beyond的歌”抗戰二十年”一樣………….
[當天空手空臂我們就上街，沒甚麼聲勢浩大，但被不安養大，不足養
大，哪裡怕表態當中一起經過了時代瓦解，十大執位再十大，路上風急
雨大，一起嚇大，聽慣了警誡應該珍惜的，即使犧牲了，激起的火花，
仍然照耀
Woo…你我霎眼抗戰二十年，世界怎變，我答應你那一點不會變幾響
槍火敲破了沉默領土，剩下燒焦了味道，現在少點憤怒，多些厚道，
偶爾也很燥不管這種爭拗有型或老土，未做好的繼續做，活著必須革
命，心高氣傲，哪裡去不到他雖走得早，他青春不老，灰色的軌跡，
磨成血路
Woo…你我霎眼抗戰二十年，世界怎變，永遠企你這一邊，Woo…哪
怕再去抗戰二十年，去到多遠，我也銘記我起點不會變]
Comment by Virgo O — 6月30日2004年 @ 11:38 am
Hi Hi..跟上次一樣帶你妹同去?天熱，記得做些防中暑準備:小風扇仔、清熱中成藥、白花油、濕紙巾…
Comment by 萱言 — 6月30日2004年 @ 1:26 pm
今次不會帶妹妹去因為她這幾天不適，只跟幾個憤怒中年去。今次可能還要雨傘喔。
Comment by Virgo O — 6月30日2004年 @ 5:03 pm
香港的政治經濟環境像還未合適普選…現在可以先爭取和引起注視, 希望過約干年可以落實下來
Comment by VORTEX — 7月1日2004年 @ 1:43 pm
今天真熱，聽說遊行現場…(有何見聞?)
Comment by 萱言 — 7月1日2004年 @ 9:15 pm
有去過灣仔現場但沒有參加遊行,見場面壯觀,以年青人居多,亦不乏洋人.
Comment by VORTEX — 7月2日2004年 @ 1:30 am
不想在這說太多Politic,但希望那些說香港沒有條件普選的請說出什麼條件 is needed for 普選. 我們不可只從自已的 feeling 而說香港沒有條件。好像我們看到baby crying, 我們不可immediate 說 the baby is not hungry. Unless 我們有一些 objective information, 例如 the baby just have meal shortly, 那樣我們才可draw that conclusion.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月2日2004年 @ 10:50 am
VORTEX你都會唔參加遊行？奇喎
Comment by c — 7月2日2004年 @ 3:21 pm
Virgo O:用了多長時間參加遊行?
Comment by 萱言 — 7月2日2004年 @ 3:22 pm
歡迎暢所欲言。^ ^
Comment by 萱言 — 7月2日2004年 @ 5:32 pm
今次不算太久，兩点半已不能進入維園，最後約四時出發，到中環時己六時了。雖然天氣很熱，但行出來的一片清空很令人振奮。去年要六時多才能離開維園呢。
Comment by Virgo O — 7月2日2004年 @ 11:06 pm
reasons for hk not suitable for general election:
1.citizens do not have sufficient political knowlegde, they even don’t know what is democracy
2.the central government would not allow
3.no good political leaders
we need more time for gradual changes
Comment by VORTEX — 7月3日2004年 @ 12:58 pm
Good subjective reasons.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月4日2004年 @ 12:23 am
……………..
dealing with politics…can’t be too romantic
Comment by VORTEX — 7月4日2004年 @ 11:36 pm
Does it means due to it is politic, so any unreasonable or subjective judgement become acceptable? I think this could be the reason why they could cut the head out of the Korean without feeling shame or guilty.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月6日2004年 @ 2:17 pm
組織遊行的啥“陣綫”被揭發離譜多報遊行人數，誠信很有問題。
Comment by 非是 — 7月7日2004年 @ 7:04 pm
Virgo,
1.how do u know my views are subjective?
2.is subjective=100% wrong?
3.why my views are unresonable?
4.what is the ground of your subjective judgement on my views?
^.^
Comment by VORTEX — 7月7日2004年 @ 11:42 pm
香港有沒有普選不是有沒有條件普選的問題，
而是能不能普選的問題，
香港能不能普選正是主觀性的，
香港能不能普選正是由中國中央領導人的主觀所決定。
Comment by 非是 — 7月8日2004年 @ 12:37 am
VORTEX, Please note that:-
1. Citizen does not have sufficient political knowledge…..
– How is this conclusion drawn? Based on what study or survey or only personal observation? Also what rating /marks /measurment is considered to be “sufficient” before general election can be in place? It just like a teacher tell a class not good enough without showing what their scores are.
2. The Central Government would not allow.
– It is not an objective condition we would like to discuss for Hong Kong to obtain before general election. Hong Kong may have very good condition for general election but the Central Government may still turn it down by whatever unreasonable reason.
3. No good political leader
Also if the political environment in Hong Kong is closely controled by China. Then how can we develop good political leader with different aspect.
– Similar to point 1, how this comment is drawn? How to measure if they are “good” or not?? Without objective measurement, I can also make the statement that our political leaders in Hong Kong are the best in the world
I agreed with “Fai See” that, it is not a matter whether we have the condition for general election or not. The matter is we are not allowed to have general election. In case Hong Kong really does not have the condition for general election, then the government should do things to achieve it instead of saying a lot of excuses. However, it is the China government using their subjective judgement not to allow Hong Kong having general election, that is why we needed to fight for our right.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月8日2004年 @ 9:42 am
香港人要爭取普選是香港人的事，
香港人能不能普選是領導人的事。
由領導人說了算，
香港人說了不算。
中國領導人要不要給香港人普選要看香港有了普選會不會讓大陸人都要普選。
香港人能普選除非香港人讓領導人清楚知道香港普選後會變很慘嚇壞大陸人。
Comment by 非是 — 7月8日2004年 @ 1:23 pm
That is why I said in the beginning that if some body want to trun down the demand of general election, please do not use “Hong Kong does not have the condition” as excuse. This conclusion does not stand. Instead just admit that it is Central Governement not allowed to do so.
It is just like a man rape a lady. Just admit that it is his desire. Do not use the excuse that that lady can be raped because she does not know how to defense.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月8日2004年 @ 3:50 pm
Virgo,
1.from education,we can see there is nothing about politics…it’s easy to infer
2.nothing can be done without the permission from central gov’t
3.those leaders still in the baby stage…even don’t know how to crawl
therefore HK need time, time for education, time for those leaders to grow up, time for mainland gov’t to reform
Comment by VORTEX — 7月8日2004年 @ 10:25 pm
請繼續高談闊論。侃政治，很man。^ ^
Comment by 萱言 — 7月9日2004年 @ 1:24 am
Good Subjective comment again.
Please note that “Subjective” does not mean “wrong”. It just means “not convincing” due to baseless.
If political education is a must for general election, then I can say within the coming 100 to 200 years, Hong Kong will never be allowed to teach politic. So it would be easy for China not to allow general election in Hong Kong.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月9日2004年 @ 4:01 pm
Ironically China government allows some villages to elect their own representative, while majority of the village people are not educated. So I think the requirement under China government is the other way around, i.e. Hong Kong people should not be educated before general election can be granted.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月10日2004年 @ 1:13 pm
i raised 3 points saying about “not suitable”…not saying something is a must…please read my words carefully…your conunter-argument is merely based on your own subjective view by commenting my views are sujective, do u think your argument is convincing?!
Comment by VORTEX — 7月11日2004年 @ 9:55 pm
Please read back comment #7 and #19. Since somebody in HK including you said that HK does not have the condition for general election, I asked your opinion what condition is needed. However, the answers provided are subjective comment, such as “sufficient” or “good”. So I asked again how to rate “sufficient” or “good”, based on what scale or measurement.
If these questions are considered subjective, then I think it is difference in the level.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月12日2004年 @ 11:11 am
????? i am not aiming to convince anyone…my views are base on #22…easy to infer…if you believe everything have a scale, sorry, i can tell you are out of the reality…
Comment by VORTEX — 7月17日2004年 @ 10:35 am
As said in #7, #19 and #27, I hope some body can give me convincing reasons with base and objective ground. If the reason provided for not allowing general election cannot be measured or rationalized at all, then sorry….. it is in a lower level than I expected and I think the discussion can be off.
P.S. I do not believe everything has a scale to measure. Instead I beleive all conclusion drawn should be with certain base.
Comment by Virgo O — 7月17日2004年 @ 4:23 pm
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Comment by VORTEX — 7月19日2004年 @ 12:21 am
還有數天便要投票了，都選定了嗎？過去兩個月有改變過心意嗎？
若有，是甚麼導致改變呢？參選者醜聞有影響嗎？
Comment by 非是 — 9月8日2004年 @ 4:19 pm